You’re Tougher Than You Think: SEAL Lessons on True Resilience

In this episode, Joe De Sena sits down with Navy SEAL and best-selling author Leif Babin to talk about what it really takes to push through failure, lead with purpose, and keep going when things get tough. Leif shares how getting rejected from the SEALs—and learning through setbacks—shaped his belief that Extreme Ownership is the key to real growth. You’ll hear why persistence matters more than talent, and how to turn mistakes into momentum, whether you're leading a team or just trying to improve yourself. If you’ve ever felt like giving up, this episode will remind you that you’re tougher than you think—and that the only way forward is to own it all and never quit.